What happens to modern classics??
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Bigted
Two Stroke
I so agree. I would love to be able to buy an air-cooled Triumph that looked like a Bonneville but had a 975-995cc's motor, dual front brakes, cartridge front end and a redesign of how the engine looks preferably one that looks a little more like the modern Norton engine or the Kawasaki W-800 engine (but without the bevel), both engines which look a little more refined then the 865 IMHO.
In short if they could give me one that looked like either of these two bikes I'd be very happy indeed: (edit: bottom one won't expand for some reason but it's Pepe's Version 8 Bonnie/Thrux as found at: http://www.triumphbikes.de/triumph-bonneville-ver8.html )
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Sal Paradise
Hooligan
they can't evolve... they are too slow.. All this hand wringing. Triumph is selling a ton of them and no one is sweating about it as they cash our checks.
Sometimes i think the slogan should be " Bonneville ... outsells all faster lighter cheaper motorcycles. "
Sometimes i think the slogan should be " Bonneville ... outsells all faster lighter cheaper motorcycles. "
Strongislander
Scooter
Ujm
There is a substantial unsatisfied demand for the UJM type with all the modern technological improvements. Able to cruise comfortably without being a heavy cruiser; responsive handling, without the discomfort of the cafe' ergos. Triumph has come the closest to meeting that demand, hence, their success with the classic line.
There is a substantial unsatisfied demand for the UJM type with all the modern technological improvements. Able to cruise comfortably without being a heavy cruiser; responsive handling, without the discomfort of the cafe' ergos. Triumph has come the closest to meeting that demand, hence, their success with the classic line.
Bigted
Two Stroke
I really think that is the case ie: UJM unsatisified demand. I think Kawasaki's earlier W-650 introduction failed due to inauspicious timing (and a slightly too small engine) because of the big jump in popularity at that time of the heavy Cruiser type, Harleys and the continuing demand for racer boy sport bikes, all 3 of which have since waned quite a bit in popularity IMHO.
That popularity rise seems to have been driven by new riders many of whom now know the difference and would now like to get a sensible, comfortable bike.
Because the Kawi W-650 failed first time out everyone now points to that case as proof that a UJM standard "classic" type can't sell in North America, more's the pity. Evidence of this is Honda's (stupid) refusal to bring the new CB-1100 over which looks to be the epitomy of modern, standard UJM.
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Two Dogs- Why don't you tell us how you *really* feel?
Just a thought, would rather be talking about this sort of stuff as a group at a pub in the hills after a good ride, absolutely perfect 25 deg c winter days here at the moment.
Sal Paradise
Hooligan
Ubm
Excuse me - its a UBM = Universal British Motorcycle.
Please use the correct acronym. But - good point.+1
I have some friends with heavy cruisers and they suffer from the weight and vibes and ergonomics. Another friend has a sport bike and when we went for spin last week he kept saying it was the longest ride he's ever done - all of 120 miles! So, yeah I certainly buy your point about the sensible bike.
BigTed - that Norton is the shiz. Man that beautiful.
Excuse me - its a UBM = Universal British Motorcycle.
Please use the correct acronym. But - good point.+1
I have some friends with heavy cruisers and they suffer from the weight and vibes and ergonomics. Another friend has a sport bike and when we went for spin last week he kept saying it was the longest ride he's ever done - all of 120 miles! So, yeah I certainly buy your point about the sensible bike.
BigTed - that Norton is the shiz. Man that beautiful.
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Sal Paradise
Hooligan
A lot goin on here this bike really speak to me
BlueJ
Blue Haired Freak
A lot goin on here this bike really speak to me
Smofucking hot.
strokerlmt
Moderator
Beautiful bike...unique
LMT
LMT
Bigted
Two Stroke
Sal not sure what ya mean, I thought the poster was decrying the non-existence of a modern retro ujm, we already have the ubm = Bonneville.
Anyhoo, more purdiness: Ridge's Bonneville and a Honda 500tt.
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Bigted
Two Stroke
A lot goin on here this bike really speak to me
Yes indeedy. I'd like to know what it is exactly that he did to his pipes inorder to get rid of the Bonnie kink, I guess he simply cut a bit off? or maybe they're Thruxton pipes (would that work?) I'd like to do the same to my pipes. Whatya think?
I especially like his polished aluminum covers and blacked out jugs too.
